1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,000 I 2 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,360 Heard a little girl say mama mama mama 3 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:28,040 I caught something on the corner of my eye look like a little girl running at the steps 4 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:35,680 Is she just there at you it just stood there. I mean it was almost human. I think somebody might have been murdered 5 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:43,560 She was healed right in this area right here as she was dying she got on her hands and started saying 6 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,600 mama mama mama 7 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:53,200 Somebody's in that house. My name is Ryan and I'm a paranormal investigator 8 00:00:54,200 --> 00:01:00,160 When I was a kid my experiences with the supernatural terrified me I've been searching for answers ever since 9 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,320 So when I got to Penn State, I realized I wasn't alone in my quest 10 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:09,520 So I founded the paranormal research society dedicated to helping those who were haunted like I was 11 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,280 We are students 12 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,280 We are seekers 13 00:01:14,960 --> 00:01:16,960 Sometimes we're warriors 14 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:21,040 Each time we help someone I feel like I'm one step closer to finding the truth 15 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,520 This is paranormal 16 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:32,640 Okay, one large natural pizza and an order of wings awesome. Thank you so much 17 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,240 So y'all want to talk about the case? 18 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,800 This case involves a man named Jeffrey who's inherited the property 19 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:48,800 He chose a location for his new house tore down the old house built a house upon moving in 20 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:55,000 They started experiencing the supernatural his daughter Sierra has seen the apparition of a little girl 21 00:01:55,520 --> 00:02:02,560 Seen eyes stare at her from outside the house looking at the grandmother Jeffrey's mom has seen an apparition as well 22 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:07,080 The daughter is especially frightened and Jeff wants answers for her 23 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:14,120 So our jobs as paranormal investigators are to find out if there's something there and if there is paranormal activity 24 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,120 Why a little girl? 25 00:02:19,580 --> 00:02:21,580 You 26 00:02:43,640 --> 00:02:45,920 He's good he won't bite you 27 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:52,800 Are you Jeff good? I'm Ryan. Hey, you know you. Yeah. Hi. This is my daughter Sierra. Oh, nice to meet you, Sierra. I'm Ryan 28 00:02:54,840 --> 00:03:00,880 We started two years ago tore down an old house built this one directly right on top of where it was 29 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:08,280 Moved in December 14th of 07 so almost a year here in a few days, right and 30 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,340 Pretty much started noticing stuff right away everything 31 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,360 Pretty much started upstairs didn't it? 32 00:03:15,920 --> 00:03:17,480 Pretty much 33 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:22,360 Sierra's bedroom is this one right here. So what have you experienced in here, Sierra? 34 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:27,400 I was sleeping and it felt like something was shaking me trying to wake me up and 35 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:35,120 Thought I saw something in the window kind of a figure form and look like a little girl which window that window 36 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,760 A couple of little girls that stayed all night with my youngest daughter 37 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:45,880 They were up here played in the loft and two of them came downstairs and asked my wife 38 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,560 Where's the other little girl that we can't find her my wife said that we're the only ones here 39 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,960 And they said well we saw another little girl upstairs a minute ago at the top of the steps I 40 00:03:54,400 --> 00:04:01,200 Also my mom saw the little girl standing in this window about early September. I believe it was 41 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,400 She's got to the point where she don't come up here by herself much anymore 42 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,840 Okay 43 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,000 So Jeff tell me about the first experience you had in the house 44 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,080 The one thing that I remember happening is I was laying in bed is about two o'clock in the morning 45 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:21,200 And I heard a little girl say mama, but it wasn't loud 46 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:25,680 It was only like mama like they're about that level and then I heard it again 47 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,920 it said mama mama again like they're at there and 48 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:31,600 Then that was it 49 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:36,280 The girls kept hearing noises upstairs pecking on the windows pops and cracks things like that 50 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,840 And I just told them that you know it was a new house 51 00:04:38,840 --> 00:04:41,440 It had to settle and that satisfied them for a while 52 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,560 You know until the shadows showed up 53 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,000 I was sitting on the couch and I caught something on the corner of my eye 54 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:55,440 And it looked like a little girl running at the steps like almost skipping like oh wow last night before you over here 55 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,440 I felt like she was with this but oh really? 56 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,240 What did you do? I was freaked out 57 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:07,400 I just didn't feel comfortable and so I went in my dad's truck. I just sat in there until you got home because I was afraid 58 00:05:08,840 --> 00:05:12,520 That was kind of disturbing for me because you know you don't want to see your kids 59 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,600 Scared you know out of their mind. You know just I'm talking about 60 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,920 she was crying got up next to me just like protect me daddy and 61 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:25,360 That really bothered me Jeff. What would you like for us to do here? 62 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:32,240 To make my kids feel easier in their house if this is a little girl help her find her way home 63 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,440 So where was the girl stent the how tall was she? 64 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,280 Make your hand up a little bit higher. She's flat against it and this hand was at the canstige 65 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:48,800 This so she was standing in like like this. Mm-hmm. What exactly did she look like? She had a round face 66 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:56,520 Her hair was down by shoulder length. It was some I guess between the blonde and a brown maybe it was just kind of dark 67 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,560 She had 68 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,560 very old old 69 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,560 clothes on 70 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,320 Like the collar and your neck and lace and 71 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:14,320 Victorian I guess I don't know does she have any markings on her face 72 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:20,600 I can't find that she may have freckles and I don't know if I could see a draw it, you know 73 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,680 I'm going to try to remember as best you can every minute detail 74 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,000 Around face 75 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:40,520 The subject of course is a female we're talking about about what age do you think it's somewhere between age of 10 maybe 13? 76 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,320 I 77 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,160 Let her eyebrows with a very full take 78 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,400 Yeah, that's it yes 79 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,320 You 80 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,560 Okay, Linda 81 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:30,440 This is what you saw in the window that this dispens close to that gear what I can remember ever 82 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:46,160 So Michelle hey, how you doing good always taking me to new interesting and out of the way places 83 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:06,520 Up the stairs sounds all coming from 84 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,000 Outside when there shouldn't be 85 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:21,520 But not so far outside just just a little offset from the rest of the house I 86 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:34,800 Don't want to say melodramatic, but I think somebody might have been murdered at least a hundred years ago, maybe who who was murdered a 87 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:43,120 Little girl, maybe I get more images of what I would think is the murderer who is 88 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,440 Big raw-boned 89 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:51,200 Coveralls work shirt young mold I can't see the face 90 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:57,680 I see I think whiskers or something covering the face maybe a hat maybe a like a bandana even I don't know 91 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:02,700 But something obscuring the face so it's harder to see the person's face and get any kind of features 92 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,480 Well, why would he kill her? 93 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,040 It feels dirty 94 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,320 I 95 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,800 Don't want to say melodramatic, but I think somebody might have been murdered 96 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,240 At least a hundred years ago, maybe who who was murdered a 97 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,400 Little girl, maybe what was the motive? 98 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,040 Well, why would he kill her? 99 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,760 It feels dirty 100 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,520 Really? 101 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,520 if I follow 102 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:48,320 If I follow the trail of images he he hit her or he dismembered her or he did something to hide her away 103 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:18,320 Nanny Wormack the nine-year-old daughter of mr. and mrs. Logan Wormack 104 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:26,560 This time brutally raped and murdered us in a quarter mile from her home Elmer Hill charged with assaulting and murdering 13-year-old 105 00:10:26,680 --> 00:10:31,040 Mamiya Wormack near Russell Springs was taken from the local jail about midnight 106 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:38,000 By an armed mob and after confessing the crime was hanged to a tree about 20 miles away 107 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:44,760 I met her on the road coming from school and tied a bandana around her neck and strangled her and took her 108 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,760 Out in the woods and killed her he attempted to choke her with her scarf 109 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,720 But as he started to walk away and any raised up and called mama three times 110 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:57,920 It was then that hill picked up a tree limb and struck the child debt. You say mama three times. Yeah 111 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:04,080 That's it is interesting to know that Josie Hill Wormack Nanny's mother thought she heard her little girl calling mama 112 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,640 And it was this that made them begin looking for it. Wow 113 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,640 I 114 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:16,880 Through here was the path the little girl walked walk right up through there and it come right around the fur where she lived 115 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,080 She was healed right in this area right here 116 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:25,920 But her body was found right here and my fence lines right there on the other side of that tree 117 00:11:28,560 --> 00:11:32,320 This is where they found her she was murdered up there in the old path 118 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,320 Right and they was a great big tree that stood right up there 119 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,400 And he brought her down behind that tree and hit her body 120 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:53,440 There was a town rumor about um a girl who had died jibbier about the sierra. No well, we did some digging and um 121 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:59,280 We were able to find some information about the nanny wormack murder 122 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:04,400 And uh, I went and I tracked the area where she was allegedly killed 123 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:10,160 Um, it was a couple miles away. Okay, but you know everything you guys have been saying 124 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:16,000 Suggests that of a little girl. Yeah, right. I mean you were pretty confident that you were seeing a little girl 125 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:24,000 The other thing that's interesting when she died the mom claimed that while she was uh, I guess in the house 126 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,640 She heard a voice say mama mama mama three times 127 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,000 So she called out to her husband and the husband was 128 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,280 You know, I didn't hear anything and they thought it was the daughter 129 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,280 Which is why they went to go search for her quickly 130 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:42,720 Allegedly as she was dying elmer thought he had killed her and then as he was walking away 131 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:47,280 She got on her hands and she started saying mama mama mama 132 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,200 That's kind of creepy 133 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,400 Directors log 134 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,080 I'm inviting sierra to join us for tonight's dead time 135 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,640 If nanny wormack is truly the spirit that's haunting this family 136 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:12,480 Then i'm hoping sierra's presence will encourage her to reveal herself 137 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,940 Okay, you want to start recording your camera? Yeah 138 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,960 If there's a little girl here, can you hear us? Can you let us know that you can hear us? 139 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,640 Did you used to live here? 140 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,640 Is nanny here with us? 141 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,640 Nanny are you here with us? 142 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,840 If you're here nanny, can you please knock on a wall? 143 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,840 Was that knocking noise attacked? Did you hear that? 144 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,240 Was it you in the window? 145 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,360 I heard it very faintly 146 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,360 I don't know what you're talking about 147 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,360 I don't know what you're talking about 148 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,360 I don't know what you're talking about 149 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,360 Oh, I was just wondering 150 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,840 What was that? 151 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,240 I don't know what that was 152 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,240 Where's that coming from? 153 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,240 What was that? 154 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,240 Guys, is that you? 155 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:50,960 Negative on that 156 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,520 Who's here in the house with us right now? 157 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,240 Did you hear something? 158 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,240 What did you hear? 159 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,800 Did you guys just giggle? 160 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,800 No 161 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:23,920 She was with us 162 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:42,880 Did you guys just giggle? 163 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,880 No 164 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,200 I don't know 165 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,000 Director's log 166 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,000 Was the spirit of a little girl communicating with us last night? 167 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,000 I can't say for sure 168 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,000 This morning we contacted two descendants of the Womack family 169 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,000 Hey ladies, thanks 170 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,000 I'm meeting with them to see what new information they can add to our investigation 171 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,000 Are you related to the Womacks? 172 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,320 My mother was a Womack 173 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,320 Really? 174 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,320 There was a teenage girl who was murdered 175 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,320 Her last name was Womack 176 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,320 Nanny 177 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,320 She wasn't a teenager though 178 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,320 She was eight years old 179 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,320 She was a sister of my grandfather 180 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,320 Do you know where she's buried? 181 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,320 Yes, we do 182 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,320 In a Womack cemetery 183 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,320 Can you show me where? 184 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,960 Here 185 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,200 This is her, Nanny? 186 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,200 1908 187 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,200 Did your grandfather ever talk about, you know, 188 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,080 memories of her? 189 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,080 Did you ever see a photo of Nanny? 190 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,080 Yes 191 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,080 Betty has a photo 192 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,080 Oh you do? 193 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,080 I have one with me if you'd like to see it 194 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,160 I'd love to see one 195 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:18,660 This is her and this is her mom and dad and this is Sharon's grandfather 196 00:17:18,660 --> 00:17:22,660 That's my grandmother and then this is the two older brothers 197 00:17:22,660 --> 00:17:24,660 So this is your grandfather who's right here? 198 00:17:24,660 --> 00:17:26,660 That's right here 199 00:17:26,660 --> 00:17:28,660 And then this is little Nanny there 200 00:17:32,660 --> 00:17:34,660 Wow 201 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:42,240 The photograph of Nanny Womack bears similarities to the sketch drawn from Linda's description 202 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:46,740 The next step is to see whether Linda can pick Nanny's photo out of the lineup 203 00:17:46,740 --> 00:17:48,740 We'll have some photos that we found 204 00:17:48,740 --> 00:17:50,740 If you can just show me which one looks the most 205 00:17:50,740 --> 00:17:52,740 Like the girl you saw 206 00:17:52,740 --> 00:17:54,740 Here 207 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:11,240 Didn't any of these girls stand out as the one that you saw in the window? 208 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,240 This one right here at the face 209 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,240 In the dress 210 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,240 Yes 211 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,240 And this 212 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,240 This is, I don't know if you've ever heard this name before 213 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,240 But this is Nanny Womack 214 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,240 She was murdered in this area in December 1908 215 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,240 You're kidding me 216 00:18:33,820 --> 00:18:35,820 No ma'am 217 00:18:42,820 --> 00:18:44,820 The strange thing is that Nanny was murdered 218 00:18:44,820 --> 00:18:46,820 But it was a couple of miles away from here 219 00:18:46,820 --> 00:18:48,820 So why would she be coming to this house? 220 00:18:48,820 --> 00:18:50,820 I mean if you think about it how old is Sierra? 221 00:18:50,820 --> 00:18:51,820 She's 14 222 00:18:51,820 --> 00:18:53,820 She just turned 15 223 00:18:53,820 --> 00:18:55,820 Like two weeks ago 224 00:18:55,820 --> 00:18:59,820 So maybe Sierra and Nanny Womack are connecting 225 00:18:59,820 --> 00:19:01,820 Which is interesting because Sierra said that to me 226 00:19:01,820 --> 00:19:05,400 I asked her, well if it is a little girl why do you think she's coming here? 227 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,400 And she was like well maybe you know 228 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,400 I'm like a role model for her 229 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,400 Maybe I'm a big sister 230 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,400 Maybe 231 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,400 I love Nanny, it would now be 232 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,400 She'd be very old 233 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,400 Wait a second 234 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,400 She was murdered in 1908 235 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,400 In December, it's December 2008 236 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,400 Oh shoot, what was the date of her murder? 237 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,400 It took place on December 8th, 1908 238 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,400 December 8th 239 00:19:29,980 --> 00:19:34,980 So we are within four days of her hundred year anniversary 240 00:19:34,980 --> 00:19:36,980 That's, wow 241 00:19:36,980 --> 00:19:38,980 Really? 242 00:19:42,980 --> 00:19:44,980 Final director's log 243 00:19:46,980 --> 00:19:49,980 On the eve of the centennial anniversary of Nanny Womack's death 244 00:19:49,980 --> 00:19:53,480 I'm inviting Sierra and Jeff to join me at her grave site 245 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,480 It's right here, this is Nanny right here 246 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,480 It's a short grave 247 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,560 Some of her siblings are buried here 248 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,560 Her brother and sister are over there 249 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,560 This is the Womack family plot 250 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,560 For me I feel a lot better 251 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,560 Knowing a name with what's been going on 252 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,560 I'm glad we got this far 253 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,560 I really am 254 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,560 You don't know how better it makes me feel 255 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,560 And I hope it brings some 256 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,560 Better feelings for her 257 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,560 Do you feel? 258 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,560 Yeah 259 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,640 I feel like we're in a game with a... 260 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,640 Yeah 261 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,640 With what's been going on 262 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,640 Although Nanny suffered a brutal fate 263 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,640 Maybe now her spirit can rest 264 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,640 Knowing that her call for mama has finally been heard 265 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,640 You